I got lucky with getting Justice as my tarot while I had also collected JOAT and a jack of spades (this was a hearts game) So using this plus me getting a kingmaker, I had like 11 face cards, and even after getting a master of ones putting me to like 12, I HAD SUCH BAD LIKE WITH THESE CARDS, I had an insurance card and 2 jokers as well, and you bet that if that joker was the first card out it copied any ace in sight, HOWEVER WITH SO MANY CARDS TO HELP ME GET 20 OR 21 IN 2 CARDS THERE WAS ALWAYS SOME NON-10+CARD, LIKE JOKER-ACE WORTH ELEVEN FOLLOWED BY A 7, OR A MASTER OF ONES FOLLOWED BY A 6.
The one thing I hate about king of the hill is that it's so hard to activate unless you dedicate an entire run to, and you did that run, ON GLITCHED DECK NONE THE LESS
a few small ideas are to have advantage cards cost more than just one advantage. then have some of the chips like the pepper give you more than just one advantage. that would not only make things more balanced but also add in a whole lot more strategy into the game. the other is to maybe not make the whole game pixel art and maybe try doing something similar to how celest did its art style. maybe make the chips and IDs a more simplistic look while having the cards look hand drawn. then throw in some small effects some more character dialog then the game is finished.
there are already some cards that indirectly cost more than one advantage to use certain effects. you could make a copy of AI generated card on your side for 2 advantage. Dancing queen may require more than one advantage to get to a specific value.
I think the advantage gameplay loop is fine the way it is. no need to make it more complicated. also, there has been major strides made with developing the style of the game.
I'm pretty sure the dealer has the same three cards in his deck as before, and the only significance of a npc having a foil card is that they get to start with it.
curious, can you ever permanently add a foil card to your deck at this stage of the game?
Like the additional music options, and many of the new cards. I think I like that face-cards are now on average good, but I'm not sure. Don't much care for the new grungy aesthetic, but I'll put up with it. Glitched is way easier now than in the April Fool's update, since it copies most of what cards do again. Some of the nerfs (e.g. Death, Lovers) were a bit extreme, but that's okay. Glitched cards copying Handy cards' Handiness would be nice, but would probably make the associated deck too good. Advantage is starting to feel less tacked-on, which is good. I still much prefer the pre-advantage version of the game, but this is much more complete, and if it makes adding more card ideas easier in terms of balance, I can see how that might be worth it.
The change to Jack-in-the-box is very good. Being able to sink advantage into it to roll different suits as it goes in and out of the box feels thematically appropriate and isn't awful. Being able to spend 1 advantage to get a 0 value is very good, but not broken.
The change to Mon Calamari is still SAD. 1000 chips was such a cool side objective and we used to die trying to set it up more than any other way in the game XD 100 chips with the direct damage making it easier to kill with and a self-damage penalty is certainly much more balanced, but it is not nearly as exciting. It makes sense, though, since the new cards have been upping the power level and particularly the ability of the player to consistently hit precise targets to drag out games when desired.
Jumping jack is awesome and a ton of fun.
Report Card is a great way to make spades matter, although perhaps a bit overpowered in its own right-- consider that it is always better than cardiovascular exercise.
The King of All Cosmos is a neat idea, but glitched cards going into it seem to be a problem-- they don't activate its on-play effect if you've no jack, which is fair, but they also, at least in that case, instantly end the round for some reason that is unclear to me.
It's weird to me that Jackpot doesn't instant blackjack. I get that the pun you are going for is that it is a pot of Jacks, but it's just a little weird to me, I guess. Maybe it could do something to the effects of cards like the scratchcard or gravecard that have a random roll as well as giving three jacks? Idk.
I like the Baseball Card, now, it was a good fix.
Is the 4 mana 7/7 still in the game? I haven't seen it.
0s with suits are kinda weird to me. I wonder what the suit part does.
i've been playing this game every day obsessively, beat both the lounge and the basement and am now trying to collect everything, can't wait for full release!!
You could have them all be negative omni-suit cards but replace the face cards with slashes.
Yeah, a Tarot deck would be hard to balance for sure. Some of the cards are pretty bad, but they're all better than e.g. the 8 of clubs. I guess except Death if all your cards are tarot XD
negative blackjack could never and will never be a thing. the format don't support it, it wouldn't make sense with how the negative cards say " * effect cannot be reduced below zero". not to mention that there is no negative limit.
you could potentially have a card that multiplies all current played card values by -1. in fact you could probably theme it after the inverter from shotgun roulette.
consistency. you could wait until it's the last card in your deck then ask for valentines to get a good 20 +free healing. or you could just have a risk-free 18 for as long as you like.
New update is amazing, but please tone down the glitchy effect on the glitch cards it's straight up nauseating unless ironically the glitch deck glitched out for me and got more intense.
Edit: I'm big dumb and didn't know there was a setting.
This new update's excellent! The new art is so pretty and fitting, and it's got such a new polished feel to it! Looking at the backgrounds and cards now is so cool!
I love the new art style, I love the new cards, I love the new table background! It's set such an amazing tone and feel, I absolutely love it all! Compliments especially to the credit card, which looks so much better now!
Another random question, would it be possible to get the pre-updated version uploaded separately? I really enjoyed how that one played. Not that this one isn't bad at all, don't get me wrong. I just would like to be able to play the other one when I'm at work on breaks and what not. :)
It's probably just me but a few things I'd like to mention about the update. The "Glitch" effect on the cards is very distracting. I know it's supposed to be but prior to the update it seemed a lot more tame. Overall it seems very dark. Granted it fits the "environment". I'm sure I'll have some other things later but don't get me wrong I still plan on purchasing this when it hits Steam!
the only thing is i would like changed is the art of the drunk. make him look like he is depressed and trying to do a edgar allan poe if you know what i mean
it's not necessarily harder, but it's mostly for more experienced players because glitch cards can mimic any card in the game, so you would probably need to be familiar with such cards.
I have a lot of fun playing this I just wish there was some sort of save option, I know it's probably part of the experience I just wish I wasnt getting super far and then starting from the beginning it makes me not want to play over and over in one sitting which i think Id be able to do if there was more save progress
otherwise a super fun game I really love sitting and playing
I have made it to the VIP area on all difficulties and I might have a gambling addiction now, please release the full game so I don't spend all my money at real casinos.
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I got lucky with getting Justice as my tarot while I had also collected JOAT and a jack of spades (this was a hearts game) So using this plus me getting a kingmaker, I had like 11 face cards, and even after getting a master of ones putting me to like 12, I HAD SUCH BAD LIKE WITH THESE CARDS, I had an insurance card and 2 jokers as well, and you bet that if that joker was the first card out it copied any ace in sight, HOWEVER WITH SO MANY CARDS TO HELP ME GET 20 OR 21 IN 2 CARDS THERE WAS ALWAYS SOME NON-10+CARD, LIKE JOKER-ACE WORTH ELEVEN FOLLOWED BY A 7, OR A MASTER OF ONES FOLLOWED BY A 6.
Nice!
The one thing I hate about king of the hill is that it's so hard to activate unless you dedicate an entire run to, and you did that run, ON GLITCHED DECK NONE THE LESS
new use for double backed card: combo with 4 mana 7 7 [Urayuli]
But exploiting doesn't trigger the 4 mana 7/7, does it? I thought only hitting did.
no, exploiting does in fact use a turn, just like playing a card from hand, and 4 mana 7/7 triggers at the start of your next turn.
it is garenteed consistency.
Dang, nice! That makes the double sided card a LOT less useless.
a few small ideas are to have advantage cards cost more than just one advantage. then have some of the chips like the pepper give you more than just one advantage. that would not only make things more balanced but also add in a whole lot more strategy into the game. the other is to maybe not make the whole game pixel art and maybe try doing something similar to how celest did its art style. maybe make the chips and IDs a more simplistic look while having the cards look hand drawn. then throw in some small effects some more character dialog then the game is finished.
there are already some cards that indirectly cost more than one advantage to use certain effects. you could make a copy of AI generated card on your side for 2 advantage. Dancing queen may require more than one advantage to get to a specific value.
I think the advantage gameplay loop is fine the way it is. no need to make it more complicated. also, there has been major strides made with developing the style of the game.
why does the poker player look ALOT like giwi with some 8 bit glasses
I see no similarities, other than them both being girls.
the bouncer has a FOIL 21 OF SPADES
and less enough cards to be able to spam it
RIGHT?! the amount of polish to this update is nuts
I'm pretty sure the dealer has the same three cards in his deck as before, and the only significance of a npc having a foil card is that they get to start with it.
curious, can you ever permanently add a foil card to your deck at this stage of the game?
i dont know
hmm now that i think about it, there should be a gamemode where you pick the starting deck
not compatible with collection. you could just start a run with all of the cards you haven't found yet.
related question for someone else, why does bouncer have a 10 of clubs now?
no idea maybe so he can keep having either 21 of spades, 20 of clubs, or nothing at all
he only has one 10 of clubs.
and I found the reason: reduced bust limit
OHH that makes sense
also he has two 10s
I got a business card played as my first card on the first run I did that got to there so I could (and had to) take the foil 21
Like the additional music options, and many of the new cards. I think I like that face-cards are now on average good, but I'm not sure. Don't much care for the new grungy aesthetic, but I'll put up with it. Glitched is way easier now than in the April Fool's update, since it copies most of what cards do again. Some of the nerfs (e.g. Death, Lovers) were a bit extreme, but that's okay. Glitched cards copying Handy cards' Handiness would be nice, but would probably make the associated deck too good. Advantage is starting to feel less tacked-on, which is good. I still much prefer the pre-advantage version of the game, but this is much more complete, and if it makes adding more card ideas easier in terms of balance, I can see how that might be worth it.
The change to Jack-in-the-box is very good. Being able to sink advantage into it to roll different suits as it goes in and out of the box feels thematically appropriate and isn't awful. Being able to spend 1 advantage to get a 0 value is very good, but not broken.
The change to Mon Calamari is still SAD. 1000 chips was such a cool side objective and we used to die trying to set it up more than any other way in the game XD 100 chips with the direct damage making it easier to kill with and a self-damage penalty is certainly much more balanced, but it is not nearly as exciting. It makes sense, though, since the new cards have been upping the power level and particularly the ability of the player to consistently hit precise targets to drag out games when desired.
Jumping jack is awesome and a ton of fun.
Report Card is a great way to make spades matter, although perhaps a bit overpowered in its own right-- consider that it is always better than cardiovascular exercise.
The King of All Cosmos is a neat idea, but glitched cards going into it seem to be a problem-- they don't activate its on-play effect if you've no jack, which is fair, but they also, at least in that case, instantly end the round for some reason that is unclear to me.
It's weird to me that Jackpot doesn't instant blackjack. I get that the pun you are going for is that it is a pot of Jacks, but it's just a little weird to me, I guess. Maybe it could do something to the effects of cards like the scratchcard or gravecard that have a random roll as well as giving three jacks? Idk.
I like the Baseball Card, now, it was a good fix.
Is the 4 mana 7/7 still in the game? I haven't seen it.
0s with suits are kinda weird to me. I wonder what the suit part does.
Koi Koi / Hanafuda themed cards would be nice.
is it true that you coded it so that you could never find king of the hill while having no face cards, forcing you to have, then remove face cards?
No, I had a run where I started with the glitch deck and got king of the hill as my first reward card.
I guess I just need to keep grinding then.
Randomly tried out the game, wasn't expecting a masterpiece.
Noice!
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i've been playing this game every day obsessively, beat both the lounge and the basement and am now trying to collect everything, can't wait for full release!!
literally, randomise portrate just cycles thru them.
Absolutely love the card shark theme! : ) : ) : ) : ) : )
you can spam the back button on the collection.
also [there] is a bug similar to being able to peek inside a pack without buying it in balatro. see if you can find what it is.
there needs to be negative and tarot starting decks. also make it so negatives have interesting effects on negative blackjack so you can still win.
you would need to have some positive cards though. Which cards would be positive?
also tarot cards never gonna happen. There is a reason why there is only one way to get tarot cards in your deck.
You could have them all be negative omni-suit cards but replace the face cards with slashes.
Yeah, a Tarot deck would be hard to balance for sure. Some of the cards are pretty bad, but they're all better than e.g. the 8 of clubs. I guess except Death if all your cards are tarot XD
what are slashes? do you mean scratch?
yeah my bad
Just use The World if you want a tarot deck
but what else would you put in such a starting deck? How would you make it fit in with the others?
negative blackjack could never and will never be a thing. the format don't support it, it wouldn't make sense with how the negative cards say " * effect cannot be reduced below zero". not to mention that there is no negative limit.
you could potentially have a card that multiplies all current played card values by -1. in fact you could probably theme it after the inverter from shotgun roulette.
I think there may be a bug where it might invert colours. idk it only happened to me once.
pretty good game ye man!!
Is there negative face cards?
the addition of many new face cards is clearly inspired by the limited amount of jacks that can be transformed by that one tarrow card
Is it accurate to say that you will generally get negative cards matching your base deck?
no
No, but there are negative aces.
wow this is a new game, I thought the comments were refering to the glitch deck
I love every single new thing
they removed "burn on discard" from the fool.
thank you very much for adding "cards created this way burn on discard" to the lovers.
idk, man, why ever take an additional lovers now?
consistency. you could wait until it's the last card in your deck then ask for valentines to get a good 20 +free healing. or you could just have a risk-free 18 for as long as you like.
i hate the 21 point card :< ,btw nice game
advantage of double-backed card's exploit effect: exploiting stalls for a turn.
New update is amazing, but please tone down the glitchy effect on the glitch cards it's straight up nauseating unless ironically the glitch deck glitched out for me and got more intense.
Edit: I'm big dumb and didn't know there was a setting.
In settings there is a glitch intensity setting
Oh shoot thank you!
I didn't know that either! makes it much easier to see what card it's mimicing
Love the new update, it's almost a whole new game
yO , had a lot of fun playing this . great demo !
Bro i love this game
I understand the fonts as a stylistic choice, but I find it a bit difficult to read, especially the pixel style font.
It would be really nice if there was a more readable font :)
Or a clear font setting maybe 🤔
This new update's excellent! The new art is so pretty and fitting, and it's got such a new polished feel to it! Looking at the backgrounds and cards now is so cool!
Oh my goodness this new update is amazing
I love the new art style, I love the new cards, I love the new table background! It's set such an amazing tone and feel, I absolutely love it all! Compliments especially to the credit card, which looks so much better now!
Please give us a link to the pre-updated one, or at least a download link? :)
Would love a link to the game about a week (or two) ago <3
it doesn't have glitch deck though
Another random question, would it be possible to get the pre-updated version uploaded separately? I really enjoyed how that one played. Not that this one isn't bad at all, don't get me wrong. I just would like to be able to play the other one when I'm at work on breaks and what not. :)
they also have it in their steam page
It's probably just me but a few things I'd like to mention about the update. The "Glitch" effect on the cards is very distracting. I know it's supposed to be but prior to the update it seemed a lot more tame. Overall it seems very dark. Granted it fits the "environment". I'm sure I'll have some other things later but don't get me wrong I still plan on purchasing this when it hits Steam!
The Settings now contain a Glitch Intensity modifier. By default it's at 3, if you want the original effect set it to 1.
Thank you!
1 of Nothings -1 = Blank Card, good job dev
i love this game
13+1=glitch card
but 11 of nothings +1 =glitch card, because there is no 12 of nothings i guess
"Man, I love gambling" - Random Teenager 2024
I think it would be hilarious to have a card that is just the 22 or 23 of the suit. That way, not even the rules card can stop it from being terrible!
22 could still win.
Hence why I said 23
it seems slightly different. better balanced. prettier. need to keep one card with redacted on it just for the lols.
this looks SOOOO MUCH BETTER. who did the art.
i am GOING to buy this when it comes out
the only thing is i would like changed is the art of the drunk. make him look like he is depressed and trying to do a edgar allan poe if you know what i mean
why is there a glitched deck? is it seasonal?
or permanent?
It's a higher difficulty run.
got it
it's not necessarily harder, but it's mostly for more experienced players because glitch cards can mimic any card in the game, so you would probably need to be familiar with such cards.
I have a lot of fun playing this I just wish there was some sort of save option, I know it's probably part of the experience I just wish I wasnt getting super far and then starting from the beginning it makes me not want to play over and over in one sitting which i think Id be able to do if there was more save progress
otherwise a super fun game I really love sitting and playing
best game update ever
they are broken and i love it
Huh? Nothing is changed in these cards?
is it the addition of card art you are referring to or is this just the first time you used this card?
remember when it was literally just "card art redacted"
I have made it to the VIP area on all difficulties and I might have a gambling addiction now, please release the full game so I don't spend all my money at real casinos.